Curse

Stupid Shizno · Jun 23, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37

my ranger has a 5/1 vamp mursaat horn bow for pvp
sundering long bow for pvp
and sundering recurve bow for pve

both pvp bows are used in pve (the vamp is mostly just a barrage build)

kimahri · Jun 23, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

I use:
A Meynsang's Longbow
A Graygore's Shortbow
A Zealous Mursaat Hornbow for barrage

I'd like a Recurve bow with zealous, but I'm low on money now.

-Loki- · Jun 23, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

5:1, +29 Mursaat Hornbow
5:1, +30 Longbow (Ironwing)
Poisoners, +30 Longbow (Elswyths)
5:1, +30 Recurve (Elswyths)
Zealous, +5 Shortbow (Greygores)
Poisoners, +29, -5en Shortbow
Poisoners, +15 armour Longbow (mainly kept for sentimental reasons, and the fact that it's gone from the game, also looking to change it to a +10 armour, +30hp)

Now I just need Rotwings Recurve Bow and I'm done for a while.

QoH · Jun 23, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

What is the type of Zodiac skinned bows?

Numa Pompilius · Jun 23, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

The reason all you guys use recurve, is that because you all use Barrage?

Because if you don't (heck, even if you do), seriously try out a flatbow instead. Longer range and much faster firing rate more than make up for the innate 10% sundering. Add Read The Wind and you have the same speed on the arrows and the same low arc too.

-Loki- · Jun 25, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

The reason all you guys use recurve, is that because you all use Barrage?

Because if you don't (heck, even if you do), seriously try out a flatbow instead. Longer range and much faster firing rate more than make up for the innate 10% sundering. Add Read The Wind and you have the same speed on the arrows and the same low arc too.

And a much higher firing arc and miss rate. Unless you are under Favorable Winds or Read the Wind, Flatbow for anything is horrendous. Use recurves for interrupting anyway, not barraging.

Valerius · Jun 25, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by QoH

What is the type of Zodiac skinned bows?

Zodiac Bows are of the Longbow class

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

The reason all you guys use recurve, is that because you all use Barrage?

Because if you don't (heck, even if you do), seriously try out a flatbow instead. Longer range and much faster firing rate more than make up for the innate 10% sundering. Add Read The Wind and you have the same speed on the arrows and the same low arc too.

Recurve is the "best" bow for most situations... that's why most use em'

you should really only be using a Flatbow if you are using RtW or Fav. Winds... if your not... don't expect to hit anything unless they are stationary targets

Metanoia · Jun 25, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

My favourite bow model of all time has to be...

But alas, a cruel twist of fate would have it be a Horn Bow, probably the most useless bow-type of all. Tarnok's Recurve Bow was just a slap in the face... sundering/enchant(ed/ing)...

**************** Dirty lies *********************
Apparently they're good for spiking, but I'm not entirely sure.
I know for a fact that Quick Shot and Needling Shot's cast times are actually based on your attack speed. The static '1 second' cast time listed on the skills seems to mean 100% of your attack speed. It's the same for the 1/2 second cast time spells of Warriors, such as Protector's Strike and Savage Slash, they're also based on your attack speed. Their '1/2 second' cast time seems to mean 200% of your attack speed.

So, if a Ranger's interrupts are effected in the same way... I'm wondering if a Horn Bow's slower attack speed is actually hurting the spike more than the 10% AP is helping.

**************** Dirty lies *********************

-Loki- · Jun 25, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40

If you are playing a Ranger for spiking, yes, a Hornbow is best to use. The extra, base 10% armour penetration is very helpful in a spike or when just dealing damage. Other than that, other bows are better.

I also just tested Quickshot on the Isle of the Nameless with a recurve bow, short bow, long bow and horn bow, and you are wrong. The Hornbow fires a Quickshot just as fast as a shortbow does, same as interrupts such as Punishing shot, which is used in spiking. So yes, if spiking, a Hornbow is best. As soon as Quickshot is ready to fire again, the bowtype makes no difference, it still fires in 1 second and has a 1 second recharge. You might have gotten confused with the aftercast added to Ranger interrupts.

Alias_X · Jun 25, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Eternal and Zodiac.

Metanoia · Jun 25, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

If you are playing a Ranger for spiking, yes, a Hornbow is best to use. The extra, base 10% armour penetration is very helpful in a spike or when just dealing damage. Other than that, other bows are better.

I also just tested Quickshot on the Isle of the Nameless with a recurve bow, short bow, long bow and horn bow, and you are wrong. The Hornbow fires a Quickshot just as fast as a shortbow does, same as interrupts such as Punishing shot, which is used in spiking. So yes, if spiking, a Hornbow is best. As soon as Quickshot is ready to fire again, the bowtype makes no difference, it still fires in 1 second and has a 1 second recharge. You might have gotten confused with the aftercast added to Ranger interrupts.

Go try QS/NS with Tiger's/Bestial Fury active. Also, try to look at the time between attacks, normal -> QS, rather than just the first shot. I'm pretty sure I'm not crazy... :/

Edit:

Eww, the voices lied to me. ¬_¬
Only the IAS stance seems to have an effect.

Former Ruling · Jun 25, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Favorite Skin: Nevermore flatbow.

Favorite Type: Shortbow.

Sai Rith · Jun 25, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

I like Dead bows and Zodiac bows. fav skins.They also happen to be recurve and long bows,my favorite types

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Lumen · Jun 25, 2006, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Well, having a ranger, I know my bows

Personally, I think they're the most expensive class to spend for weapons...being that they're usually only PARTLY marksman, not completely.

Favourite Longbow Skins: Storm Bow, Zodiac, Platinum, and the unique Urgoz's Longbow (Matches the colour of my armor ^^)

Favourite Recurve Skins: Dead Bow, Eternal Bow (Gee, there really aren't much, but the recurve is the 133754uc3 bow ^^)

Favourite Hornbow Skins: Mursaat, Dragon (dyed black!), Ivory (The contrast against black or darker armor is awesome ^^)

Favourite Shortbow Skins: er...I don't really have any shortbows -_- but if i did, Half Moon

And remember...if i say it's popular, it's popular xD j/k...(but seriously...kinda true xD)

Numa Pompilius · Jun 25, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valerius

Recurve is the "best" bow for most situations... that's why most use em'

ONLY for barrage, IMO. It's refire rate. is. horrendously. slow. Even for barrage a flatbow is better, IMO, since you get a normal shot between the barrages "for free".

Quote:

you should really only be using a Flatbow if you are using RtW or Fav. Winds... if your not... don't expect to hit anything unless they are stationary targets

True, you do need either (or both), but the pay-off from bringing RtW or FW is much, much, greater dps (due to the higher refire rate) than you get from the 10% sundering.

-Loki- · Jun 25, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

ONLY for barrage, IMO. It's refire rate. is. horrendously. slow. Even for barrage a flatbow is better, IMO, since you get a normal shot between the barrages "for free".

If you aren't using a Recurve for interrupting, you have no idea about bows.

isamu kurosawa · Jun 25, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

I use the following:

Crippling Zodiac Bow of fortitude 15%Enchanted (to carry)

Vampiric Ironwing Longbow of Fortitude 15^50 (general Use)

Silencing Recurve Bow of Fortitude 15^50 (Interrupt)

Vampiric Shortbow Of Defence 15%Stance (to use while in a stance and being hit at close range)

I simply use the zodiac for the look while not in combat to prevent death by my vamp.

Ray · Jun 25, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

I just use an Ivory bow :/

Cjlr · Jun 25, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Collector bows ftw!

I have a 15>50 longbow, a 15>50 recurve bow, and 15>50 flatbow, and a 15>50 shortbow. I haven't decided what mods to put on which ones yet, though. Of course, they all look the same, so it's a pain to resort them when I forget which is which.

Leon_Ux-ixen · Jul 06, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

My ranger is currently sporting the 20/20 +30Hp version of dragos Flat. But i'd much prefer a Bramble Longbow dyed red with the mods just with +15 always -10AR. But sadly I don't have 100k plus to drop on a bow.